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  • wexford air
    by wexford air 1 year ago
    Sh1t Monty, That's a pity cos you had that trike looking good. The only cure for those things is to get back in the air asap and bruises and cuts will heal up soon. It's heartbreaking when you get away and then turn back to see the wreckage! But these things can bite when you let your guard down and your probably not in the mood for advice at the moment but I would look at your flare technique a bit when you get going again. You probably tried to take off downwind as well and that probably explains the lack of lift when you were expecting it but you need to be able to reach that front strut. Hope your in the air soon and good luck.
  • Jozinko Sajan
    by Jozinko Sajan 1 year ago
    Im so sorry Monty for your accident. I hope, you will be well soon. Yea i know how is hard to tell wife you need money for repairing (and how hard is to receive it). Its terrible video! Good luck.
  • Larry  Mednick
    by Larry Mednick 1 year ago
    Wow! Thanks for posting. I think your focus might have been on lifting off instead of steering back to the right. Holding "centerline" on takeoff is an important skill we must all practice. Having said that you might have lifted off had you pushed forward all the way right before running off the side. But the right thing to do is keep the bar forward and drop the right wing and steer with your feet back to "centerline". Obviously you are probably thinking I KNOW THAT! This is not as uncommon as you think. It happens way to often and to many higher time pilots. I've never been "along for the ride" before so Thank you for sharing.
  • Craig Dingwall
    by Craig Dingwall 1 year ago
    Wow Monty, sorry to hear. Thanks for the share it made for pretty horrible viewing for sure.
    Once again it just shows that you cant take your eye off the ball for a minute or it bites pretty hard and very quickly.
    Guess I'll refrain from any of the "i'm sure it'll buff out" type jokes until later.......
    The main thing Monty is that you are in one piece (mostly).
  • Chuck Tabbert
    by Chuck Tabbert 1 year ago
    Ouch Monty, yeah off arpts are tricky - hope you're ok
    Sounds like you have substantial damage especially the crank shaft issue
    Get better !!!
  • Tom Currier
    by Tom Currier 1 year ago
    Bummer. That was painful to watch........came right out your shoes! Hope all the body parts heal and you're able to patch her back together and quickly so you're up in the air again.

    Ditto on the shoulder harness. I think the outcome might have been much worse if not for that.
  • Larry  Mednick
    by Larry Mednick 1 year ago
    Monty you are right that more AOA is more drag and will increase ground roll. But at a couple of miles per hour and several feet before it will lift with the wing positioned with less AOA the wing WILL FLY and take off at a higher AOA provided it does not exceed critical AOA. But looking at this video one thing I see as a designer is your legs are to short for the way your gas pedal was set up. Because your knees are not bent very much your right ankle is really stretching for Full throttle. That reach usually takes away control. Whether your feet are reaching or your arms are reaching for the controls, it tends to take away a lot of control. You were really reaching to get full throttle.
  • Paul Hamilton
    by Paul Hamilton 1 year ago
    That is pretty bad. Front impact at 35 to 40 ish. Ouch. Busted up trike and body. Glad you are here to talk about it. My wishes for a speedy recovery.
  • Doug Boyle
    by Doug Boyle 1 year ago
    Monty, So sorry to see your bird involved in the upset. It looks to me that your throttle acceleration influenced the direction of your front wheel. Read not enough left foot resistance to counter the pressure of the right foot. Good thing you have the skills to return your bird to flight!
  • Damien B
    by Damien B 1 year ago
    Thank you for posting this Monty, I salute your honesty! This will be invaluable for all of us.

    One thing that stood out for me when studying for my CFI rating was Figure 2-1 below and that accidents are statistically equally as likely to happen on take off as landing.
    This video really brings that into perspective and I along with my students will be learning from this.

    I wish you a speedy recovery and easy fix to get your bird in the air again!


  • jeff trike
    by jeff trike 1 year ago
    Monty, that sucks. Glad you survived to limp away. Was the auxiliary electric fuel pump pumping gas everywhere? Maybe they aren't all that great to have. Hope your body will quickly heal and you can get a new trike together soon. You can take some comfort in that this video will make you famous worldwide.
  • jeff trike
    by jeff trike 1 year ago
    Monty, thanks for posting this video. I can imaging myself making this same mistake. Rolling down a dirt road, drifting to the side, hitting a berm and flipping. Once I took off from a grassy field with a sticky throttle pedal. I hit a clump of grass with the nose wheel that put my trike into a turn. I pulled my foot off the gas but the sticky throttle pedal kept took it down to half throttle. I kept turning and soon lifted the outside trike wheel. Now I was really scared, wing was tipping now. To scared to let go to kill the mag switches. Finally did manage to kill the mags, and saved my trike, but I could have easily tipped over in a very similar accident.
  • wexford air
    by wexford air 1 year ago
    Sorry if it was irritating Monty. Not the intention. Hope it works out ok and we'll see your next adventure soon
  • Leo Iezzi
    by Leo Iezzi 1 year ago
    Like all of us here, I too am glad to see you're alright Monty. Let me know if I can help in any way repairing your Trike.
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 1 year ago
    Oh me oh my monte. I was going to post the ol monty flesh wound thing untill i watched the video. Actually it was a de jha vu for me only i was landing. Last year landing my soaring trike after having a blast and resisti
    ng getting too cold. I had mad a quick choice of landing in the hg lz next to my truck. Instead i should have aborted and landed the smoother runway 1/2 mile away from my truck. After my mains i touched down my nose wheel i caught a wet clump of dirt which pushed my wheel to the right. Over i went destroying my falcon 3wing.
    I was so suprised how quick and how little reaction time i had. Embarassed and upside down it was at first difficult to get myself out. I couldnt reach the kill switch iether with my broken prop screaming at me. After sitting down going over everything i concluded that i was tired, cold , pushed myself to hard having fun. Instead of making reasonable calculated decisions on my landing i made a quick one. I didnt go thru my normal landing mental checklist! Had i been more firm on my steering i think i could of held it. Also i have no steering dampener on my nose wheel . I think that would of helped. I too was totally unscathed. Slightly upset with myself though .
    I know you didnt exspect that one to happen. Iam sooo glad you are ok. Thanks so much for being brave and posting. I didnt have my go pros on or i would of put mine up. That could happen to any one of us.
    What doesnt kill us makes us a better pilot?
  • John Smith
    by John Smith 1 year ago
    Thanks, that took courage to post. From this, manufacturers and pilots could learn to remove any and all sharp points and edges from the pilot area.
  • Andy Hughes
    by Andy Hughes 1 year ago
    You rock, you tell it how it was. No BS. My frend you have a seat at my table, I am like you. Last year I was showing off my motorcycle merrits. Wiped out in front of the neighbourhood. Stood up, told everyone its my fault. Didn't blame the sand or gravel. I was the ass wipe. Got respect for not lying. Got major road rash. Ha, I'm still here....
  • Rizwan Bukhari
    by Rizwan Bukhari 1 year ago
    Monty, thanks for sharing the video. I am sad that your trike is damaged but in the bigger scheme of things, glad that you were able to walk away.

    Despite what happened, enjoyed your writing style. I am also glad you had a shoulder harness to save you from impacting the front tube.

    All of us can learn a thing or two from this video.
  • Bryan Tuffnell
    by Bryan Tuffnell 1 year ago
    Jeez, Minty, glad to see you limp away from that. We all feel your pain (well, some of it) because we're all silly buggers at times and one of us will be next. The main thing is that you're nearly okay - the trike can be rebuilt but we're a bit short of Montys on this planet.
  • Jim Davidson
    by Jim Davidson 1 year ago
    Sir my hat is off to you! Still flying trikes at 82 and to walk away from that mess, wow. I sometimes find my three point seat belt a bit restricting but after watching this....what can I say, glad I have it. I recommend Advil for pain relief and more flying for ego relief. Take care.
  • Job Chithalan
    by Job Chithalan 1 year ago
    Monty! Glad you are okay.
    Based your spirit, I an sure you will be back up there soon.
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 1 year ago
    Monty. Wow 82 your a tuffol fart ! Hope i do as well in the not so distant future! I think the biggest thing that concerns me here is the gas coming out the gas vent. When i flipped i was supprized that there was no gas leaking but more supprized that i hadnt but a tablespoon of fuel left. Another roll over by a student in oz and a good friend also had fuel coming out sizzling from the vent.
    I think this may be a good point of discussion here! What could be done or changed to prevent fuel flow from the tank im the event of inverted landings?
    Maybe some sort of check valve that allows the tank to vent in normal flight operations.
    Maybe others would kindly respond!
    Anyways i very glad you are ok and one last question.
    How are you getting your trike back to alcatraz?
  • Damien B
    by Damien B 1 year ago
    >>What could be done or changed to prevent fuel flow from the tank im the event of inverted landings?

    A long vent line from the top of the tank, going up slightly then doing a 180 degree then going down just below the tank so if it does get inverted, no fuel will flow out???
  • Doug Boyle
    by Doug Boyle 1 year ago
    Monty, On the lighter side, I noticed that you didn't deploy your Safety Chute....
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 1 year ago
    Monty thanks for the laugh concidering iam now completly snowed in probably for the remainder of winter . Watching the movie the shineing helps but i really want a piece of some ground hog back east for supper!

    Damien yes i have that vent tube on my redback but nothing on my sky cycle. Let me refraze my question what can we do to stop the leakage that monty and yft exsperienced?
    Iam not to afraid of the afterlife but burning scares me.
    Maybe this is an aera we could improve on . Youre thoughts welcome.
  • Doug Boyle
    by Doug Boyle 1 year ago
    Any landing you walk away from is a good landing - when the aircraft is still flyable, it's a great one! "Good" on ya' Monty.
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 1 year ago
    Phillip thats kinda what i was thinking! A small check valve that when inverted would cover the cap vent hole with a soft rubber ball. But as damiens imput iam not really sure where the problem lies. Plus i wouldnt want to create a bigger problem out of trying to correct a smaller problem. Somewhat like gerry in hawaii. Looking at the crash im santa barbra california that trike went up in flames pretty fast.Maybe this is a good subject for a blogg for some of our more ingenuititive pilots imput . Bladder exspansive tanks , check valves. It would seem to me with trikes more could be done to eliminate the risk of fire in case of a survivable crash? Someone want to start a blogg on it. I would love to see some imput in this direction?

    Monty i think you have some pretty incredable , helpfull video here . Ranks up with henrys spiral dive vid. I went over and over your video in slow mo. Looks to me like after the impact with the berm and just before the damage to your nosewheel. It apears that your feet came off the pedals and were limp. I believe that may have saved you from more serious leg injury. Those are just my observation. In the ol days of hang gliding crash preparedness in un avoidable loss of controll pryor to impact was to let go of the bar and tuck and cover. By the looks of your base tube you must have maintained a light grip on your uprights possably saving you from a spiral arm fracture. In the event of iminate impact their are things we can do to lesson the chance of severe injury. You here the term brace for impact but iam not sure thats the best term. Relax and cover for impact and let the trike carrage and wing absorbas much as the energy as possable. Also in your vid in slo mo i think the multi point harness is understated. At one point you are flung pretty high g towards the ground by youre head and shoulders. Had you not had that harness it apears to me possably you would have impacted hard their. Theirs just so much to learn from this. It could of been much worse. You certainly have something looking out for you my friend. Thanks .
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 1 year ago
    Monty sorry about being a man of so many words . I just can seem to help it! At about 1:38 thru 1:41 you can clearly see some of the hazards to your body by the base tube breaking inwardly towards you off the compression strut. In hang gliding the uprights and base tube are designed to break to prevent arm fractures on the event of a hard wack. Because as trikers are below the base tube possibly a good idea to ajust the breaking points so that a projectile is not directed at your vitals? Sorry about maybe over thinking this but iam always asking the question of what could we do to make crashes more survivable. As a emergency responder and fire fighter i cant help it.
  • Bradley  Waters
    by Bradley Waters 1 year ago
    Monty... you old bugger! You one tough sum bitch!
  • Byron Roberts
    by Byron Roberts 1 year ago
    Sorry for your accident, aches and pains. This vid has brought alot of good attention and instruction for us all to follow. A speedy recovery to you.
  • Tony  Castillo
    by Tony Castillo 1 year ago
    Monty, Very sorry to see this. Wish you a speedy & full recovery. Thanks for sharing the details and video with us.
  • Bill Chance
    by Bill Chance 1 year ago
    On our single seat race car that you strapped on more than you strapped into, the exhaust headers were about 8" behind your head. Because it was so tight to get out of when upright and even harder if upside down, fire was a big concern seeing the pump was about 12" from the headers. Per rule cars had to be equipped with fire bottles but you had to be awake to hit the fire button or turn off the pump. So I ran the pump off a relay tied into the oil pressure. Engine dies upside down and loses oil pressure= pump off. Will not work with a 2 stroke though, but one could wire a relay rigged to a simple mercury switch for either engine.

    The fuel cell vent had simple rollover check valve.
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