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  • Jan Ferreira
    by Jan Ferreira 2 years ago
    This is where I had my 3rd engine out in July 2011 but the other two was not in trikes but many years ago. Wes and Marsha came to my rescue to help me get the trike back to the airport.
  • Jim Davidson
    by Jim Davidson 2 years ago
    The "bad" news, you had an engine out. The "good" news, you have a trike.
  • Tony  Castillo
    by Tony Castillo 2 years ago
    Jan... sorry to hear that :-( ... I'm glad you found a good place to set it down + proves you can manage the emergency. What happened to the engine? Why did it quit?
  • Jan Ferreira
    by Jan Ferreira 2 years ago
    The engine had more than 300 hours on and up to then ran very nice and smooth, never a burp. That day I was flying at about 800 feet when with no warning the engine lost power and died a slow death. While I was loosing power I checked the instruments and there was no warning or red lines, all indicators showed normal at that moment. After opening the engine we found one of the main bearings seized and the one piston had over heated. The seizure was so severe that the crank hit a hole in the bottom of the block. The conclusion was that I had been running the engine to lean. I had the wrong main jets in the carbs. I am still not sure if that was the real cause or just my unlucky at that hours because my EGT's and water temps was within the specs all the time I flew those hours. Since then I have a new block with new crank and pistons and the correct main jets. I am running my EGT's a bit lower and I am not flying 85 mph anymore...hahaha
  • Tony  Castillo
    by Tony Castillo 2 years ago
    I thought you had a fairly new 912 aircraft Jan. 300 hrs :-( that's not much time at all ... if it was running too lean wouldn't it make sense for the temps to be high? ... well ... I hope never happen again and your engine provides 1000's of hours of safe flying!
  • Tony  Castillo
    by Tony Castillo 2 years ago
    my mistake there Jan... looks like you fly a Delta Jet with 582. But not sure... if so, it also pretty aircraft thought .. and still nice landing gear there for the rough terrain. haha ... I got you already upgraded to a Revo w/912S :-)
  • Jan Ferreira
    by Jan Ferreira 2 years ago
    Sorry we are taking the whole front page with this engine talk..:>) Tony, the thing that still puzzles me is the fact that I have been running my temps correct to my knowledge. Water always in the 160's F and EGT's at 1150 F. As I have said; there was no warning. The lesson I have learned from this is that the gauges are only there to tell you, you have tuned the engine correct but when something goes wrong the gauges will be too late to warn you something is wrong. As Abid will say, “two stokes will stop any time with no warning, get a 912” ...yea, if only I could afford one..:>)
  • Diego AC
    by Diego AC 2 years ago
    I had a 582 do exactly the same thing, hire is what I concluded after analyzing the 582 vrs 503. what I think happens to 582´s is that the rotary valve is to blame hire, when the valve closes it closes one of the inlet or carb intake, in that instance there is no gas/oil in that part of the crank and bearings. With the 503´s the piston makes as a valve but their is always gas/oil in the crank due to the design of the intake.
  • Diego AC
    by Diego AC 2 years ago
    Jan, get a 503 ;) in my opinion they are awesome little engines, they are hard to kill....
  • Tony  Castillo
    by Tony Castillo 2 years ago
    Jan... here is what Rotax print in the 2-stroke engine manual:
    4.2) Safety Information
    WARNING: This engine, by its design, is subject to sudden stoppage……

    :-(
  • Jan Ferreira
    by Jan Ferreira 2 years ago
    Tony, now you hurt my feelings....:(
  • Tony  Castillo
    by Tony Castillo 2 years ago
    Sorry Jan ... did not mean to. I have been reading the manual for the 447 because needed to check on something, and got to that sentence that never saw before! I guess I never really read that manual before. Why they worded like that? I have no clue ... perhaps translation issue.!?
  • Tony  Castillo
    by Tony Castillo 2 years ago
    by the way ... I do not say that .. .the actual manual say that :-(
  • John Young
    by John Young 2 years ago
    All Rotax engine manuals say "WARNING - subject to sudden stoppage".
  • Tony  Castillo
    by Tony Castillo 2 years ago
    Indeed John, I just did not find that same exact wording "by its design" in the 4-stroke manual, or perhaps I missed it and is in there as well somewhere. TC
  • Jan Ferreira
    by Jan Ferreira 2 years ago
    OK guys, now I feel better that it is not only my Rotax manual warning me..:>)
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