Heated Clothing for trike pilots

Published by: Paul Hamilton on 28th Mar 2017 | View all blogs by Paul Hamilton

Flying in ther winter can be warm and comfy. Everyone has their own ideas about this. I have tried to simply bundle up and use those heated pads. This helps but does not cut it for a professional trike operation in the winter. I need to stay warm all day and keep my customers warm all day. The only solution I have found the only thing that works for me is heated clothing. Simple.

Here is an excert that I have on my web site for winter flying:

It may seem that it is cold flying in an open cockpit when it is freezing out there. It may appear that winter is not the time to go triking, microlighting, ultralighting powered hang gliding. Let me dispel these misconceptions.

 

OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA Yes it is cold out there but you can use a modern state of the art heating system used my the military. It is simply heated clothing. I now use heated gloves, boots and vests. Gloves are 22 watts. Boots are 22 watts. Vests are 44 watts. HeatedInsoles That totals 88 watts of heating right near your skin to keep you warm and toasty. heatedVest Imagine trying to hold an 88 watt light bulb, it would burn your hands. This 88 watts is efficiently put where you need it to stay warm.

HeatingCoils We have the technology and can use it. Have looked and tried other systems and chose the Gerbing heated clothing mainly because of the technology plus it is available at the local motorcycle shop so it is easy to get, add or replace as necessary. Other brands probably do a good job also.  Gerbings developed Microwireâ„¢ in response to a Department of Defense contract for heated clothing for Special Ops Forces. You will use this to stay warm while you fly. Enough said. Here we show you how we suit up with all the heating clothing to keep you warm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6swkBt4zOl4

Check out what you see while flying in the winter. Snow, cold/crisp air - warm and tosty. 

 
For those do it your selfers how to design your own system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAsWjOmsb6g

Comments

25 Comments

  • Paul Hamilton
    by Paul Hamilton 7 months ago
    WE,
    When you say your output is to low to run the gloves, I am not sure what that means? If you can read your voltage that will tell you what is happening. Should be ABOUT 12.2 volts just sitting there no engine running. Above that for charging and below that for discharging. The Rotax 503, 582, and 912 have plenty of capacity for 2 pairs of boots, two pairs of gloves, and half a vest. See my video on determining the capacity or use a voltage meter.
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 7 months ago
    Thanks electricity , is not one of my talents.
    My electric gloves go into a cigerette lighter 12 bolt port but dont get hot enough to do the job. Ill look at what you have above thanks
  • Neil Scoble
    by Neil Scoble 7 months ago
    Hi White Eagle, have a look at the EXO2 gear, I have a storm rider heated vest and the heatmitt pro heated mittens, they have a selection of heated jackets-vests-gloves-mittens and boot inner soles, you can have 12 volt powered or battery powered. I have been happy with my gear. I don't use the mittens much only for those really cold days.
    https://www.exo2theheatinside.com/
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 7 months ago
    Thanks niel some really good information in here! I like the idea of both sorces. I could fly the smooth air of winter here more if i can get some better gear .
  • Craig Valentine
    by Craig Valentine 7 months ago
    White Eagle, Please send me an email at: cvalentine10@gmail.com
    Craig
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 7 months ago
    Wilco craig
  • Paul Hamilton
    by Paul Hamilton 7 months ago
    WE,
    Yes if the 12 volt heated gloves do not do it for you that is a problem. When it is really cold and it gets below 20 degrees F, it does not cut it for me also. The gloves require 2.2 amps * 12 volts is 26 watts. It is a big help with a tall windshield to keep the windchill off the hands. When the students flying hands get cold out in the wind they bring them in to the calm behind the windshield and they warm up. Additionally when it gets real cold I crank my jacket at 6.6 amps and 77 watts and put it close to my skin and that helps allot even with the hands. I would like to get twice the amps for the gloves. The amount of heat is basically based on the amps times volts it takes to run them. I have not researched how many amps the other competitors gloves take but amps times voltage is watts which you want more of.

    If I were you I would get 2.2 amp glove liners or the thinner gloves (higher amps if available) and use the sealed neoprene bar mitts in combination with the heated gloves. Get foot pads and a jacket. Crank it all up but watch your battery/charging voltage. If you are single you can handle quite allot of stuff. This would be a big improvement for you to have fun flying in the cold.
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 7 months ago
    Thanks paul i think with heated gloves and bar mits i would be good to go. Part of the problem is moisture with reynald. So i have to have a heat source and protection from the moisture. Last time i flew i over did it and had to land with nubs. I may pick youre knowlege when iam hooking the system up. Thanks
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 7 months ago
    Paul thanks to craig ive got a complete gerbring system . Do you know where to get good bar mitts. The ones northwing sells are no longer available. Id like to do more flying in the winter and possably eventually add skis to my trikes.
    Jim garrett does some pretty awesome flying up in alaska during the winter.
    Actually i was supprised you got that much snow at carson?
  • Gregg Ludwig
    by Gregg Ludwig 7 months ago
    Nice bar mitts are available from your local Aeros dealer. I got a pair from them at their booth at sun n fun last year.
  • Gregg Ludwig
    by Gregg Ludwig 7 months ago
    W.E did you ever get your trike pilot certificate? Maybe this year?
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 7 months ago
    Thanks greg ill look into aeros. Ive been flying trikes 8 years on a student certificate.
    But i just now finishing up on the written. And ive made arangements to do my xc with henry at sand point hopfully rebel wont be to far to give me my checkride and finally get past all this. Bad taste in my mouth for lite sport , paid for everything twice . Money is not something that grows on trees here in montana.I have often told myself i would of been happier if i would of just purchaced a top of the line soaring trike!
    My wife sonya loves to fly in trikes but at 200 hours ive stuck to being leagle and never taken her up. I made a commitment that i would have at least 300 hours before taking her up and do it leagally!
    I thought about just selling my red back and going back to hang gliding. But then i would take a huge loss so iam resolved to just sucking it up and finishing. That way when my wife wants to go we can fly up to hot springs. But the rest of the time i can be out squakin with the birds and chasing lift in my soaring trike.
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 7 months ago
    Greg you know that i had the same problem of always running out of money going for my ga pilots licence. 20 or so hours logged with an instuctor in a sailplane. The same logged twice with to instructors in ga aircraft. My last ga instructor in the 90s told me that i could fly better than her! But then i lost my job. Ive probably got a couple hundred hours flying jumpseat when i worked at a fbo. Paperwork eludes me .
  • Gregg Ludwig
    by Gregg Ludwig 7 months ago
    The hard part for most is to learn how to actually fly, I think you have that covered.
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 7 months ago
    Thanks greg it still bothers me though . Kinda sublimital unequal feeling amongst my peers. But i can say that even amungst ticketed pilots who seem to breeze through courses and even some cfis ive seen them pass information that is clearly wrong and sometimes dangerous. Low long aproaches to turbulant runways. Being ignorant of mc conditions near runways. Passing students to quickly . To me i see a need for going through the gauntlet of aquireing the right credentials. But i dont think thats nessasarily a rubber stamp for carrying out good adm. I remember a very egotistic corperate pilot for al unser and the galles motor racing team who was maticulous about his king air 545gm . He always looked down on us. He wanted and insisted that we placed carpet matts. With a hole over the fueling port. In the high desert you get blowing dust that collects in the carpet. So even when you shook it placing that over the fuel port sand would get into the jet -a. And secondly you never new when a lineman would forget to shake it. I tried to inform this pilot that his insistance on my crew using this was dangerous. Boy did i get my ass chewed and a long lecture how i was a nobody . He threw a total fit. To me being a good pilot yes you need the credentials but without good adm and common sense they mean nothing.
  • Paul Hamilton
    by Paul Hamilton 7 months ago
    Yes WE as I try to teach and live "a little common sense goes a long way"
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 7 months ago
    I wouldnt get in a trike with someone without it paul. Youre a lucky man
  • Paul Hamilton
    by Paul Hamilton 7 months ago
    WE to be sure, I am agreeing with your common sense not saying you need it. :-) You are lucky with all those memories and experiences.
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 7 months ago
    Thank you paul took it the right way in the first place. Sometimes memories are all we have to hold on to. I seem to strugle for success but if i look at the obsticles ive had to hurdle than i feel more blessed. And i always try to see the struggles of others.
    Here on social media it so easy to misconstrew others intentions or advise, opinions, And we all come with different mannors of speech ,slang ext.
    In this complicated day and age sometimes i find it difficult to understand or hold on to a good sense of contentnous.
    Outside and not in view of social media we all have different obsticles and hurdles that get in the way or enterfear with are goals and dreams.
    I look back in memories and small personal conflicts long forgotten rise to fondness and appreciating the times and people who have entered for a time in our lives.
    To remanise brings into the future a better understanding for the people that we have envolving relationships with now or social media or real life. Ive learned to train my brain to take snap shots that bring a warm smile. Weather it a shot of henry riding his bycicle around humbly content after a day of flying or joe hockman getting up out of his toy hauler , hair messed up , quirky inteligent smile holding a cup of coffee joining in with the activitys of the day. Or even watching you paul graciously maticulously helping a person getting ready for a intro flight. A good snapshot like leo fitzgeralds incredable mannorism enthusiazim and his love for training. The encredable rezillous smile of leo lezzi saying theirs beer in the cooler help yourselves.
    For example ive watched many of youres and larrys instructional triking videos. What doesnt get exspressed is those sublimital thoughts th at say things like Wow paul and larry really put out a hughe effort for training.
    And in every direction from phill in france ,jozinko in slovakia, wex in ireland friends in new zealand ,greg lugwig , monty henry joe and i can go on and on and all the connections everyone else has paul.
    What a privelege to encompass pilots from all over the world. Sharing are ideas thoughts yes and bumping heads from time to time.
    But in a world with increasing political unrest, diversity and disorder, saber rattleing it just convinces me more and more how lucky we are to share this ability to go up and get away from it all and be content with encredable rising above view we all share with flying. Those snap shots that if we all take a look because we all have them help us to be better humans , pilots ,friends. Could you imagine paul of the world was thrown onto kaos like what happen in ww11. How lost are younger generation would be. We must hold dear to each other the privelege we all share no matter how diverse we become politicly.
    Kinda like remembering staying up really late when we were kidds and watching that F-104 starfighter going up higher and higher and then the end signal.
  • PHILIP QUANTRILL
    by PHILIP QUANTRILL 7 months ago
    Amen WE. If we were not passionate about what we do we would not bump heads time to time. An open, frank exchange of views is essential, long may it continue.
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 7 months ago
    Ditto that phill
  • Bryan Tuffnell
    by Bryan Tuffnell 7 months ago
    WE, that was profound.
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 7 months ago
    Paul Hamilton wanted you all to know that thanks to the generosity of fellow pilot and friend Craig valentine, I now am decked out with the all the latest Gerbring heated clothing and gloves.
    Ive been unable as work here has become quite limited to afford and justify such gear. With my Reynaud's being severe in my hands it has been putting a huge dent in my flying time.
    I watched all you videos on heated clothing and had no idea that in a few weeks time I would be trying all that out. I can say that hooking it up was quite simple. and when turning on the controllers I was totally shocked how easy and fast it distributed the warmth . Very easy to adjust for the right temperature and with duel controls you can direct heat very efficiently to where its needed. It all seems to be very well built with sturdy connections.
    I would highly recommend the Gerbring products and thank everyone here who supplied advise . I think my flight time is now going to increase.
    I would especially like to thank Craig for his Generosity and kindness that he has always displayed to me . This is a fine example of of what I wrote in a few paragraphs above. thanks so much
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  • Paul Hamilton
    by Paul Hamilton 7 months ago
    WE that will make such a difference in winter flying. Craig is a super pilot and great person. Congrats and welcome to the heated clothing trike experience
  • white eagle
    by white eagle 6 months ago
    Thank you paul. And craig valentine
    Paul scince you recomended gerbring i thought that i would give a personal review.
    Iam totally impressed . The quality is stupendous, well designed and made. The heating controlls alow you to direct your heat to where you need it and control the temperature. The heating is felt within 1 min and is exstreamly pleasant and well distributed. . Clearly this is a great answer for trikers that need added warmth in colder climates. Its very conservitive on the battery draw with the pulse military grade wireing system. I clearly can exstend the duration of my flying . And flying year round in montana is a real possability. Thanks paul everyone for the help gerbring heated flight gear is a no brainer.
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