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  • Frank Dempsey
    by Frank Dempsey 8 months ago
    Two Aeros Nano Trikes (ANT) are going to be delivered me in to Albuquerque around mid-February. These are soaring trikes. One is powered by the small Coarse-Air 26hp two stroke and the other is ELECTRIC. If you would like to see then and watch me fly them, plan a trip over here. The ANT-E with be the first of it's kind in the US. Frank
  • Kris Leszczynski
    by Kris Leszczynski 8 months ago
    What wings do those 2 come with ??
  • Frank Dempsey
    by Frank Dempsey 8 months ago
    Discus T, Fox T, Combat T and Fox 13 TL. Here is the link to wing
    specifications.http://www.newmexicotrikes.com/ant/graphics/ANT_page4.pdf
  • Kris Leszczynski
    by Kris Leszczynski 8 months ago
    Great. I am still waiting for Black Bull version. Want to see if the powerplant is behaving well. This trike may do well in U.S . The price and quality is very competitive. Thanx for your response.
  • Andy Hughes
    by Andy Hughes 8 months ago
    Lindsay, would you consider the Air Criation Racer a Nano? Not much weight, 35 hp Rotax 447 and a 14M wing. I haven't flown it yet because the wing looks old, sun faded a bit but all new hardware and cables. Can you recommend a new wing for the Racer as I would really like to take it out. I fly a Pegasus Q2 912 now. Regards, Andy
  • Kris Leszczynski
    by Kris Leszczynski 7 months ago
    If the Black Bull turns out to be a "vibration problem," the Polini Thor 250 would probably be the best option, if you need more than 27hp. The Polini Thor 250 is very smooth, but the radiator adds extra complexity because of the hoses, nuts & bolts, etc.
  • Larry  Mednick
    by Larry Mednick 7 months ago
    The Polini THOR 250 really is as smooth as a 447.
  • Gregg Ludwig
    by Gregg Ludwig 7 months ago
    The newest or late model UL wings for nano trikes from Airborne, NorthWing, Aeros, Rev and others are much more and offer a higher level of safety than using a Hang Glider wing with extra sleeving as a UL trike wing. A quick look at these new wings will show their excellent airframe construction and a flight will demonstrate the easy and light handling. The new UL trike wings are purpose built and are quite different from a hang glider or LSA 2 seat wing.
  • Larry  Mednick
    by Larry Mednick 7 months ago
    The standard engine on the REV is a Simonini Mini 3. it is an excellent example of the simplest engine available. But things like liquid cooling, gear box, centrifugal clutch, electric start, counterbalanced crank shaft and dual ignition all make for a better flying experience in my opinion.

    Hang glider wings quite frankly scare me... I know maybe its not justified, but I have a mind set of what makes me feel safe when I look at a structure and the hang glider wings do not give me that satisfaction.

    I believe the better you can isolate the yaw on any trike, the better.

    I have flown some nano light trikes that were super flimsy. I didn't enjoy a second of the flight. I'm just thrilled with the ANT and others that put quality into their trike carriage. The REV is not a NANO like the ANT, it is more of a single seat trike with little soaring capability. More similar to a single seat REVOLT than a soaring trike, One day we would like to add a nano light to our product line. I really liked the NW Solarus, if nothing else as a concept of what i'd like our nano light to look like. Now that NW discontinued it, maybe I'll buy the molds and do an infused Carbon Fiber version of some sort... And Electric! I would love an electric soaring trike. that would be worth owning.
  • Frank Dempsey
    by Frank Dempsey 7 months ago
    I flew hang gliders at the H4 level before I got into trikes in 2000. I flew the ANT a couple of years ago at Sun-N-Fun and was a little bit intimidated, wondering if I was going feel like I was flying hang glider or a trike. Alexanders' wife (owner of Aeros) flew it first. This is a middle aged woman that likes to sew and you would never guess she holds a world record in distance flying a trike and directs trike field tests at Aeros. After she flew it, I hopped in. I was impressed. It felt like a trike but soared like a hang glider. I flew the Thor 250 single spark with Combat wing.
  • Joe Hockman
    by Joe Hockman 7 months ago
    Yes nano trikes are a blast to fly and totally different experience from the big heavy trikes. My understanding is the term "nano trikes" was first coined in Australia which matched one of their trike categories with the least regulation. I am sure Lindsay can comment more knowledgeably about this category. I believe the max total weight for their category is 70kg (155 lbs). The UK recently began a 70kg max category as well. In the USA we have no such category, instead we have our part 103 that states max weight cannot exceed 254 lbs (115kg).

    It is extremely difficult to design and engineer a trike that meets the 70kg limit that is structurally strong enough for strong thermal conditions for the average pilot weight. For this reason most would use a HG wing that is appropriately reinforced since this would still be lighter than the "purpose built" UL wings that Gregg was referring to. Please note that using the strict nano definition of 70kg even the Aeros Ant trike fails to meet that weight. If I read their specs correctly, the stripped down trike with the Cors-Air M25Y is 48.5kg (107 lbs). The lightest wing they offer is the Fox T (king posted 16.2M single surface) that is 26kg (or 57 lbs). Total there would be 74.5kg (164.5 lbs). All other wings offered: Discus 15T or 14T, Fox TL13, or Combat 12T are 33, or 35, or 39 kgs. Even so, they have done a great job of keeping the total weight very low.

    Having said the above, I think most trike and HG pilots outside the UK and Australia may use the term nano with a bit looser definition on weight. Personally, I would probably call any trike with a total weight of say 200 lbs or less a nano. With a looser definition then certainly all the Ant trikes may fit into the nano category, with perhaps the exception being one outfitted with the Polini 250 and Combat 12T. In the USA, ALL Ant trikes would easily meet our part 103 category.
  • Joe Hockman
    by Joe Hockman 7 months ago
    I wanted to add some comments regarding engine options. Having flown single cylinder trikes for many years and following UL engine options very closely, I have developed some biases on engine choices. Yes, I have flown the Black Devil M25Y and I don't particularly like it primarily due to the vibration and heat dissipation issues I encountered. But these issues apply to most single cylinder 2-strokes. Yes, one can always use soft rubber engine mounts (silent blocks) and this helps but it does not eliminate the noticeable vibration and these silent blocks don't last long. I could go into a personal story where 2 (of the 4) silent blocks on my Simonini Mini 2+ engine broke in flight, but I will save that for another day. Please note that Cors-Air does offer a cylinder shroud that helps considerably with cooling on the M25Y engine. Oh, I have flown the Simonini Mini 3 and that engine vibrates even more.

    OK, now I think Polini has done a much better job delivering technical innovations that help on a number of fronts that Larry mentioned. The counter balanced crankshaft, liquid cooling, gear box, centrifugal clutch are great additions. My favorite are the first two. I do not yet own a 250 but what I hear from owners is it is very smooth. This is pretty amazing for a jug of almost 250cc. Ironically when I first got into flying an UL trike, I did not pay much attention to the effects of vibration. I now have a real appreciation for any light 1 cylinder 2-stroke that runs smoothly. All Polini Thor engines have this counter balanced technology.

    Currently I think the Polini 250 may be only water cooled 1 cylinder 2-stroke available for UL trikes. In my mind that is a huge benefit. I don't look at is as adding complexity (although I guess it is) but in elegantly tackling the critical task of not only dissipating heat but in maintaining cylinder and head temps in a more uniform range. Single cylinder 2-strokes with displacements close to 250cc generate a heck of a lot of heat especially when operated at or near WOT for a while or when used in hotter climates. Water cooling beats free air cooling or even fan force cooling hands down. I may eventually get a Polini 250 for a future trike build but I would never have interest in a free air or fan-forced cooled version and I seriously doubt they will release such a version.

    I would love to own an Ant but before I would consider getting one, I would have to get rid of my Maverick and it may be some time before that happens since I have slowly upgraded, enhanced, and perfected it and it is a real dream to fly. A test flight on the electric version of the Ant could be risky for me because I might have to have one which means I would need to get rid of the Maverick.
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