Private Pilot License in Trike Flying

Published by: Rizwan Bukhari on 19th Feb 2018 | View all blogs by Rizwan Bukhari

 

Hi all,

 

I am curious about the benefits of doing a Private Pilot License for Weight Shift Control flying.

It seems, it gives you the priviledges of Private Pilot License, such as flying at night (with proper training and endorsements), flying above 10,000 feet, flying in Class B, flying out of the country etc.

I guess my question is this a goal worth pursuing? What if the purpose was to just increase your knowledge only? What are the pros and cons of PPL -WSC? How many of you have done your Private Pilot with weight shift control and would you recommend others to do that?

 

You could inbox me or email at rizzywizzy@yahoo.com

 

Regards,

 

Riz

Comments

9 Comments

  • Tom Currier
    by Tom Currier 3 months ago
    I've considering doing it for flying out of the country. In particular I'd like to fly up in Nova Scotia and figured I wouldn't get the night rating. I think Wes at Evolution Trikes is a WSC PP instructor.
  • Frank Dempsey
    by Frank Dempsey 3 months ago
    You'll need to get a first time medical from an AME. After that, you can see your own personal doctor under the basic med program. Remember, if you fail, you're pretty much done with certificated flying. With basic med, the AME's are getting less and less business. I don't think they're very happy about this. I spoke with our local AME a few months ago and he was willing to issue a 12 month medical but wants to see lab work every year for taking thyroid medication (job security?). So, for me that means I won't be able to do the basic med and may possibly fail a medical. Too much at risk here. I did get the FAA/EAA CFI exemption to train folks to the Sport Private level so if you need training, I can help. I just can't do exams at this point. I and others are hoping the FAA will lighten up on basic med process.
  • Paul Hamilton
    by Paul Hamilton 3 months ago
    I have tried to answer most questions about Private WSC see http://trikepilot.sportaviationcenter.com/trike-training-2/trike-private-pilot/

    Private Pilot Training
    Trike Flight Training? Private Pilot Training
    Are you are a weight-shift control trike sport pilot applicant (or a sport pilot student in training) who wants to transition from a sport pilot certificate to a private pilot certificate? Or, are you an private pilot airplane student and want to utilize your private pilot airplane for sport or private trike training to obtain a sport pilot certificate? We’ve got the answers to many of your questions.

    Differences between sport pilot and private pilot
    Sport trike pilots are limited to no night flying, and no flying above 10,000 feet MSL (or 2000 feet AGL whichever is higher), towing, NOTHING for compensation or hire and must always have visual reference with the ground.
    Private pilots may fly for business related activities as long as the flight is “only incidental to the business” and the aircraft does not carry passengers for compensation or hire. Sport pilots can not. This opens up doors for using a trike for business related activities. Additionally, as a private pilot you can demonstrate an aircraft to a buyer as an aircraft salesman. This is required to do sales demos at airshows. Sport pilots can not do demo rides to sell aircraft.

    Foreign students learning should go with private pilot because the private pilot certificate is recognized in foreign countries while the sport pilot license is not international.
    Private pilots may also fly “on top” of clouds with no visual reference to the surface. This is handy to go over a valley that is fogged in or over the top of clouds rather than underneath them. Additionally, private pilots can fly in Class G airspace (airspace close to the ground) with only 1 mile of visibility.
    See FAR 61.113 and 61.315 to see all the specific differences between the two.
    Training and requirements for the sport pilot certificate do not include flight at towered airports, but sport pilots can fly into towered controlled airports with the additional training and endorsements.
    The standards are the same
    There is no difference in the piloting ability between a weight-shift control sport pilot and private pilot. The standards are the same.
    However, weight-shift control sport pilots are not required to have training in a number of areas which reduces the minimum required training time by half. This is an overview from the knowledge test questions and the practical test standards(Checkride) of the additional subjects the private pilot must be trained and tested:
    Night flight with night cross country training
    Communications and operations at tower controlled airports (however, sport pilots can obtain this training and privileges, but this is in addition to the minimum sport pilot requirements)
    Sport pilot to private pilot transition overview

    Many pilots want to obtain their sport pilot certificate first and may or may not want to go on to private pilot because one or more of these typical/common reasons:
    They do not want to hassle with the FAA medical examination or risk not passing it, essentially ending their flying dream.
    They want to get their FAA pilot certificate in half the time and half the cost.
    They have no need nor desire for flying at night or above 10,000 feet.
    They do not want to fly into busy airports and/or want the stress/learning required to talk with a control tower.
    To use sport pilot training hours towards private, there are some important concepts to understand:
    Pilot Training hours for Private can only be done by a CFI with a weight-shift control CFI rating and a Private pilot weight-shift control rating operating under “Subpart K Flight Instructors with a Sport Pilot Rating” (CFIS).
    Any hours towards a Private pilot certificate may only be accomplished by a qualified WSC Private Pilot and qualified WSC CFI. Airplane CFI does not count as qualified to teach Sport or Private WSC
    To upgrade from a sport to a private pilot, the sport pilot WSC is trained by a qualified WSC Private Pilot who has a sport pilot CFI for WSC by following the lesson plans provided in this guide, study and take the private pilot knowledge test, and take a checkride with an FAA Private pilot WSC examiner. There is no additional cost to becoming a sport pilot first except the sport pilot knowledge test and the sport pilot checkride, both which are stepping stones to building knowledge and experience to private pilot knowledge, skill and requirements.

    Hamilton Pilot Training System for sport pilot student to private pilot license
    How to use the Hamilton Pilot Training System (HPTS) To become a private pilot? The Hamilton Pilot Training System includes a Sport Pilot | Private Pilot Guide in the SPORT AND PRIVATE PILOT TRAINING SYLLABUS – TRIKE to train from the ground up from Sport Pilot to Private Pilot. The airspace endorsement (HPTS Sport Pilot Training Syllabus – module 20) lesson and additional private pilot lesson plans listed in this guide are the additional training required:
    Private Pilot “Night Flight lesson plan module PP1 also added to “Stage 3 Student pilot – Regulations – Cross Country”.’
    Airspace endorsement is also integrated into the “Stage 3 Student pilot – Regulations – Cross Country”.
    Private pilot knowledge Module PP2 and practical tests private module PP3 simply replace the sport pilot “Stage 4 Test Preparation”.
    It must be understood that the order of the syllabus lesson plans may be rearranged by the instructor depending on the airspace the training takes place, the weather conditions, the instructor/student schedule, or any other reason the instructor feels better for the student.

    Private pilot airplane student transitioning to weight-shift control sport pilot license
    Many students who have been training for private pilot airplane can easily use some training hours to obtain a sport pilot certificate. 40 hours total are required for a private pilot of which 20 must be dual training in a WSC, 10 hours solo in a WSC with 10 hours from some other aircraft allowed to be used towards WSC.

    Typically, the first phases of training for private is the same as the first training for sport because the more difficult night cross country training, high altitude use of oxygen, and communications/operations at tower controlled airports is generally not accomplished at the beginning of the private pilot training (note: If training is conducted at a towered airport, towered communications is normally started early in the training process).
    For a private pilot student to obtain a sport pilot certificate the student must take the sport pilot knowledge test which is much simpler than the private pilot knowledge test, and meet the minimum hour requirements in 14 CFR 61.313.

    Additional private pilot lesson plans:
    Tower Controlled Airspace – Sport Pilot Training Syllabus.(this is not required if student or sport pilot has the airspace endorsement)
    Night Flight with Night Cross Country Training – Private Pilot module 2
    Private Pilot Knowledge Test Preparation – Private Pilot module 3
    Private Pilot Checkride Preparation – Private Pilot module 4
    It must be understood that if any pilot is transitioning from a sport pilot certificate to a private pilot certificate that all homework, ground school and flight proficiency from the Sport Pilot Training Syllabus must be accomplished prior to these lesson plans because it is a prerequisite to the private pilot additional materials presented here.

    Training materials
    Many of the training materials are interchangeable between the sport pilot and the private pilot accept the knowledge and practical test materials.
    SPORT PILOT LICENSE TO PRIVATE PILOT LICENSE
    Training:
    Hamilton Pilot Training System SPORT AND PRIVATE PILOT TRAINING SYLLABUS – TRIKE including Sport Pilot|Private Pilot Guide
    Knowledge test preparation:
    (Any one or combination)
    ASA TEST PREP SERIES – PRIVATE PILOT
    ASA PREPWARE – PRIVATE PILOT
    ASA VIRTUAL TEST PREP & GROUND SCHOOL – PRIVATE PILOT
    (Includes ASA TEST PREP SERIES – PRIVATE PILOT)
    Checkride preparation:
    ASA ORAL EXAM GUIDE – PRIVATE
    FAA PRACTICAL TEST STANDARDS – PRIVATE PILOT, PPC and WSC
    SPORT PILOT STUDENT DIRECTLY TO PRIVATE PILOT LICENSE
    Training:
    Hamilton Pilot Training System SPORT AND PRIVATE PILOT TRAINING SYLLABUS – TRIKE including Sport Pilot|Private Pilot Guide
    Knowledge test preparation:
    (Any one or combination)
    ASA TEST PREP SERIES – PRIVATE PILOT
    ASA PREPWARE – PRIVATE PILOT
    ASA VIRTUAL TEST PREP & GROUND SCHOOL – PRIVATE PILOT
    (Includes ASA TEST PREP SERIES – PRIVATE PILOT)
    Checkride preparation:
    ASA ORAL EXAM GUIDE – PRIVATE
    FAA PRACTICAL TEST STANDARDS – PRIVATE PILOT, PPC and WSC
    Sport Pilot Checkride Book & DVD Combo (Optional) (The Sport Pilot Checkride book is helpful because it covers the LSA requirements, as well as, the flight portion of the checkride. The Checkride DVD covers what it is like to go through a checkride which is similar to the Private pilot checkride.)
    PRIVATE PILOT STUDENT TRANSITIONING TO SPORT PILOT
    Most of the Private Pilot training materials are applicable to the Sport Pilot except the training syllabus, and the knowledge and checkride test preparation materials.
    Training:
    The instructor can assign chapters that correlate with the sport pilot training syllabus with the existing materials and eliminate the following:
    Night flight with night cross country training
    Instrument flight training (Airplane only)
    Radio navigation (VOR, DME, etc) (Airplane only)
    Communications and operations at tower controlled airports (however, sport pilots can obtain this training and privileges but this is in addition to the minimum sport pilot requirements)
    Checkride preparation:
    ASA PREPWARE – SPORT PILOT
    ASA PRACTICAL TEST STANDARDS – SPORT PILOT
    SPORT PILOT & CFI APPLICANT CHECKRIDE COMBO
  • Ken Bartlett
    by Ken Bartlett 3 months ago
    Paul,

    Can Sport Pilot WSC be trained by a Private Airplane CFI in tower communications and operations to get the endorsement if the CFI is not WSC rated? Can the CFI ride along in the trike to do this? Or can the WSC SP ride along in a fixed wing plane, receive training and the endorsement?
  • Gregg Ludwig
    by Gregg Ludwig 3 months ago
    To answer Ken Bartlett, yes, an airplane (or any “aircraft”) can be used for tower training to meet WSC PP requirements. See 61.109j (5).
    5) Three takeoffs and landings (with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern) in an aircraft at an airport with an operating control tower.
  • Tom Currier
    by Tom Currier 3 months ago
    To continue on Ken's question, I'd like to fly into Boston harbor and land at one of the islands. It's my understanding I'd need controlled tower endorsement for my WSCS, a transponder (further training endorsement required for this?), and permission to land from both the harbormaster and Tower.
  • Paul Hamilton
    by Paul Hamilton 3 months ago
    Tom,
    Is your target in Class B airspace or just within the mode C area? I would have to see your specific target area on a sectional to answer your question.
  • Paul Hamilton
    by Paul Hamilton 3 months ago
    Ken,
    To look at this from a sport pilot airspace endorsement, yes you can get your towered sport endorsement in a fixed wing but for a CFI to do ANY instruction in a trike he/she must be qualified to train in it so no airplane CFI can ride along in a trike to provide this endorsement.
  • Tom Currier
    by Tom Currier 3 months ago
    It would be within their class B space (Boston Harbor)
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