How to get all trike pilots trained with spiral recovery

Published by: Paul Hamilton on 27th Jul 2017 | View all blogs by Paul Hamilton

 

Now that we know the new training/testing standards the question is how to successfully implement it? It is important for everyone to get the proper safety training.

 

There are some CFI, and/or DPE’s who teach and others that do not teach spiral recovery.

 

The DPE’s can teach the instructors and the CFI’s can teach all their pilot base with flight reviews. Pilots simply ask for it.

 

I will provide training (and other CFI’s can do the same) to any DPE if they do not teach it or want some brushup. It is really simple and easy and it can be properly done in less than an hour (unless you are prone to motion sickness)Anything to get this out to all CFI.

 

This will take a little while, 3 years maybe to teach CFI's and get all the trike pilot with their 24 month Flight review.

 

Please provide names so we have a reference.

 

So lets get a list of the CFI’s who teach it and the CFI’s who do not can get the proper training.

 

Please provide CFI and Contact names so we have a reference. This can be from students who received the training of CFI’s who already do it. Also noice to know pilots who are comfortable

 

 

 

Qualified CFI Spiral Training CFI’s

 

Paul Hamilton (CA and NV)

Larry Mednick (FL)

Abid (FL)

Henry Boger (So CA)

Henry Trike Life (So CA)

 

 

Pilots who comfortably do spirals

 

Comments

5 Comments

  • Bryan Tuffnell
    by Bryan Tuffnell 4 months ago
    Paul - not trying to derail this at all, but what's the thought on teaching spirals as part of a more comprehensive look at turns (i.e. coordinated turns, slipped turns and spirals), given that they're different aspects of the same thing?
  • Paul Hamilton
    by Paul Hamilton 4 months ago
    Bryan,
    Yes how to up our game to the "Art of Flying" and "Mastering the Wing" techniques.
    The basic spiral training is the simple and crude "cut the throttle and yank the bar" for recovery to save your life.
    However I agree with you that a more comprehensive path should be available. I personally incorporate the coordinated turns and slipped turns into my training syllabus throughout which are not really part of the PTS (sloppy) tolerances (plus or minus 10 knots, plus or minus 100 feet, etc). This is a big problem, once someone can squeak through the checkride to minimum PTS standards (plus or minus 10 knots, plus or minus 100 feet, etc) that is it. Sadly, many only get trained to the minimum PTS standards because that many CFI's use the PTS as their training syllabus (which I feel is inadequate). I agree with you but what would motivate CFI's and/or students to pay more/spend more time to learn the Art of Flying and Master the Wing?
  • Paul Hamilton
    by Paul Hamilton 4 months ago
    Getting back on track, I will just keep adding the names in the first main body as names come up.
  • Damien B
    by Damien B 4 months ago
    Question Paul, do you know if this will be part of FAR 61.87 (m) Solo Requirements for Student Pilots ?

    If yes, then the logical conclusion will be if an existing Student Pilot wants another 90 day endorsement, they will need to take a lesson to incorporate this before receiving that endorsement.

    Frank Dempsey (DPE) and myself will be getting up to speed on this.
  • Paul Hamilton
    by Paul Hamilton 4 months ago
    Good Question Damien,
    It is one of the Emergency tasks in the PTS so it would be required in the solo per 61.87 (m) (10) and pilot training per 61.311 (k).

    I have the spiral recovery training in my training syllabus in the emergency procedures just before solo.

    IX.
    EMERGENCY OPERATIONS
    ........................................
    1-26
    A.
    Emergency Approach and Landing (Simulated)
    (WSCL and WSCS)
    ....................................................
    1-26
    B.
    Systems and Equipment Malfunctions
    (WSCL and WSCS)
    ....................................................
    1-26
    C.
    Emergency Equipment and Survival Gear
    (WSCL and WSCS)
    ....................................................
    1-27
    D.
    Recovery from a Spiral Dive
    (WSCL and WSCS)
    ....................................................
    1-27
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